spraying shellac primer with hvlp

Here's what makes the Capspray an asset in tackling cabinets, trim, furniture, metal, and more: Maximize control and finish with the legendary best-in-class Maxum HVLP guns. It's time to update the cabinets again and I want to paint just plain white. Answer: I've used DryDex spackling to fill the grain in oak cabinets without any problems, but I actually recommend using Aqua Coat grain filler instead because it dries hard inside the grain for durability. Image combining the speed and power of an airless sprayer with the precise control of transfer efficiency of an HVLP sprayer - in a single, incredibly efficient application system. Latex primer can also raise the wood grain, forming a rough texture that needs additional sanding. The angled sandpaper sponges work great. Answer: I actually don't apply a clear coat, but you can. The PowrBeast™ 4700 direct immersion gas airless sprayer provides unmatched durability and performance. Before painting, I recommend sanding the primed wood. Also for BIN Shellac primer, I saw two kinds: shellac base and Synthetic shellac. Thanks for your article. I have run into instances where the hinges are different sizes. The most difficult cracks to get rid of on oak doors is the end grain on the door edges. If your cabinets are oak, apply grain filler first. Suitable for use with most airless piston pumps.... Hour-glass design allows easy cleaning of all airless tips and safe storage. Thank you. This non-flammable, water-based cleaner is environmentally safe, odor free and will not burn skin. Answer: To show more of the natural grain, don't use any wood filler. SW is recommending I use their extreme latex bond primer so I don’t suffocate with the shellac primer and said I shouldn’t use an oil primer under it. Featuring the only 6-stage turbine on the market, this series is designed to combine next-level power and extreme agility with the ability to move freely throughout the job site. BIN sprays really nice through an airless, using the tip sizes I recommended. You can absolutely use oil-based primer under Emerald to prime bare wood cabinets. I apologize - i do have one more question (watched so many different videos) now I’m confused which is best. I know I will be caulking next - but this crusty crackle bugs me. The island cabinets were painted with a dark grey for an accent. Then you would end up having to fill it all over again. Do I omit just step 4? If a water-based primer was used that would also raise the wood grain too and make it look and feel rough. Where agility and finish combine to unleash absolute consistency. Matt G. (author) from United States on August 28, 2017: Sherwood grain filler from Sherwin Williams works well. That will seal the filler, glaze, and help the grain pattern blend in with the paint so you don't see any flashing or an uneven finish. You can wipe off the sanding dust with a tack cloth. The Sherwood filler is meant to be used on cabinets that will be sprayed with lacquer. We need a glossy finish. The MultiFinish® 440 is designed as a high production fine finish air-assisted airless system built on the legendary Titan 440 airless sprayer platform offering two systems in one. What are your thoughts about that? If you're spraying and not rolling, which is what I do, you can fill most of the grain by spraying the doors horizontally with BIN shellac primer. One problem - in the "crack" where the inset is in the door panel - the Aqua Coat dried clear but crusty and crackled - I used very thin coats but the filler that got up into the crack did not turn out so well. Planning to paint our oak cabinets and trying to get rid of the grain as much as possible. I don't recommend using sandpaper that's too coarse as it can damage the wood. If your cabinets are oak, you're likely to get tannin bleed using latex primer, which looks horrible if you're painting them white. Spraying the boxes looks better, but requires removal of everything inside, as well as masking of the cabinet openings with protective plastic. I painted cabinets for a customer who went with a light grey for all of the cabinets, except the island. Ive never masked anything off that intensely before!) Oil primer takes longer to dry, but can usually be painted in four to five hours, but I typically allow overnight drying before painting. I use a numbering system when removing the doors to avoid confusion installing them at the end of the job. I use the same tip for BIN primer and the enamel. The fumes are terrible and can make you sick without ventilation. Thanks. The revolutionary spray technology of Titan's line of tips puts paint where it belongs while decreasing overspray and extending the life of the pump.... An orifice that outlasts competitive tips delivering consistent film thickness and less wasted paint. Will definitely be going with white! Oil primer will prevent bleed through on oak cabinets, but I recommend two coats. With your Graco airless sprayer, what Graco fine finish tip size do you recommend for Zin BIN primer and what tip size do you recommend for the Sherwin Williams paint? Question: Can the BIN shellac primer be sprayed since it is flammable? Will be using Cover Stain for the kitchen for obvious reasons :). Question: Do you degloss and sand both sides of cabinet doors? Would a second coat of filler virtually eliminate the grain or do I just need to suck it up and use oak for the new doors? You have a mess on your hands now but if you can get that paint scraped off start again with an Oil based primer and paint. The PowrLiner™ 2850 is designed to withstand the rigors of steady, everyday use on pavement, fields and turf. If you apply oil primer too heavy it will take a lot longer to dry. Zinsser Cover Stain is good too for cabinets if you don't end up using BIN. Answer: Yes, you can, but the main disadvantage of oil-based paint is that it tends to yellow over time. I've used their paint, but I use Sherwin Williams products the most. Do you recommend one from Benjamin Moore? Do I 1) apply aqua Wood filler directly onto unsanded stain and sealed cabinets 2) sand, prime then wood filler or 3) sand to raw wood and add wood filler? Am I screwed? The grain preciously was not filled but I would like to do so this time but unsure if I can fill over the current paint and then unsure which primer to use over The latex. The Titan Elite™ 3500 is a gas-powered, sealed hydraulic paint sprayer that offers a lifetime of durability. How can we fix the issue on my brand new island? Norma, for tannin bleed you are best off spraying shellac, like Zinsser’s B*I*N shellac-based primer, or Zinsser’s Bulls Eye Sealcoat. The fumes and odor are gone quickly. Product availability is another consideration. It's always nice to hear feedback from my readers that my articles have helped them with their painting projects. 220-grit sandpaper is fine for this and won't break down the filler with a light sanding. Do you still recommend using a de-glosser and sanding or can we clean, fill and prime. Oak is an open grain wood with a porous surface, but the grain can be filled to get a smooth finish when painted. An orbital sander also leaves swirl marks in the primer, it's too aggressive. I have a Graco Magnum X7 sprayer and have a question about the tips you use... Do you use size 210/212 for spraying both the Bin primer and Emerald Urethane. The Impact® 440 is ideally suited for residential, property maintenance, and small commercial applications. Count the upper cabinets from left to right first, then the base cabinets in the same manner. It's faster to spray and it looks smoother when done right. One coat of filler, two coats of BIN and two coats of paint is what I do and the doors come out very smooth with no open grain cracks showing. This is really important. And if so, which clear coat do you recommend? The Helix VR 2.3 provides unmatched accuracy and heating efficiency. Ideal for medium residential or commercial jobs, the 3-stage Capspray 75 will handle enamel and multi-color coatings in addition to stains, sealers, light-body varnishes, shellac and lacquer.... As business grows, so does the size of the projects. There are so many options out there. That allowed the tannin in the wood to bleed into the paint and change its color. Using the right primer is really important when preparing oak cabinets for paint. And what grit in between coats of paint? My local SW store actually advised against it when I inquired about that once. Thank you so much for your reply! Confused - you and many others have recommended BIN and have referred to it as oil based? Question: What is your opinion on using white laquer on oak cabinets vs paint? Matt G. (author) from United States on August 07, 2019: The caulking should be done after you sand the filler and before priming. If you're rolling the primer and paint, the roller itself fills most of the grain, even without any filler, but some deeper grain cracks might remain, and the natural pattern of the oak will be more noticeable without one coat of filler. The prefinished look great, the unfinished look don't look good at all, anywhere the grain is the paint is a different color and appears to have sucked into the wood. I just used the BIN and it went on very nicely. Designed and built for contractors who are serious about completing large scale painting projects quickly and profitably. Advance is another popular Benjamin Moore paint often used for cabinets, but Advance takes a long time to fully cure. You would prep and paint oak veneer using the tips and process outlined in my cabinet painting articles. So We’re going to do our best rolling. Was I supposed to do it before wood filler? The filters get chunky during cleanup, it's inevitable, but cleanup is easy by soaking them in ammonia, or denatured alcohol, and use the filter cleaning tool that came with your sprayer. Question: I just had prefinished existing cabinets painted and unfinished cabinets painted. There is a lot of pressure in that hose and you need reliability. Answer: You should sand between coats and tack cloth the dust. Having the information will be a big help in defining the steps I will expect to be followed by my contractor. Primer and paint don't bond well to a greasy surface. Oil primer like Cover Stain, seal wood, preventing tannin bleed, and dry hard. They were then lightly sanded and a dark stain was put on. I personally use a Graco 490. You can also look at the doors at an angle and see the filler spots. The SW rep told me it was as good/better than the emerald you’re suggesting. He writes: I am trying to finish maple to a brown appearance. Copyright © 2020 Titan Tool Inc. All rights reserved. Turned out beter then I expected. Cover Stain sands really easy into a fine powder once it's totally dry. I use Sherwood filler from Sherwin Williams to fill the grain in oak cabinets, but there are other products available too. Prime them with oil primer (cover stain primer and pro block are both good) or BIN shellac primer. You also need to sand the grain filler very lightly once it dries to smooth out any bumps or ridges from the Aqua Coat. I'm back with more questions :) Above you state to use a OIL primer brand Zinsser BIN primer. For versatility, you can't go wrong with white. The paint will also stick better to the sanded primer. But you seem to be saying that is what you do. You want to start with a solid foundation and that starts with using the right primer. EM6000 Production Lacquer (EPLv8.0) is an ultra clear, water based acrylic lacquer that utilizes advanced polymer resins and HAPS-Free solvent technologies to provide a unique, self-leveling wood finish designed for commercial and industrial applications. Hey Matt. Recommended for medium and some large residential, ... For big projects requiring large tip sizes or more than one spray gun operating from a single unit, you can rely on the power and performance of the Impact® 1040. I use Quick Dry caulk (green tube) from Sherwin Williams. For cleanup, run a heavy mix of ammonia/water through the pump and gun it leave it in the sprayer. The Extreme Bond primer you're referring to is a bonding primer, not a primer sealer, so if the cabinets are bare and unpainted, this primer won't seal the wood to prevent bleed through. Or am I already too late? BIN is a lot thinner and fills the grain of oak much easier, even without using a grain filler. I haven't used the Pro Industrial product you're referring to. Matt G. (author) from United States on August 05, 2019: Sand off all of the filler so it's only left inside the grain. You can usually rent an airless sprayer from your local paint store. Eliminates hand tossing glass beads on stop bar or crosswalk applications.... Comes complete with mounting bracket, airless gun, ¼" x 6' hose and line striping tip. Apply two coats. I apply the Sherwood filler with a brush, allow it to set for about ten minutes, and buff it into the wood pores with a soft cloth, wiping in a circular motion. S/W recommended their Extreme Bond Primer. Deeply appreciate your time and sharing your talent! PowrLiner™ 8955 line stripers are the workhorse machines of the industry, designed for ease of use and simple operation on major projects that require ma... Take a load off and increase productivity up to four times when compared to walking. You still have to take everything apart and clean the gun thoroughly. Designed and built for contractors who are serious about completing large scale painting projects quickly and profitably. Designed and built for contractors who are serious about completing large scale painting projects quickly and profitably. I've had bleed through happen in spots with only one, but never two. Question: Would you recommend 150 grit for sanding in between coats? This GM 3600 air-assisted airless gun offers ergonomic comfort and a reversible tip system without sacrificing finish quality. Answer: If you're asking how to maintain the natural pattern of the oak you're painting white, you can preserve it by not using a grain filler. Answer: The application is easier with a sprayer, but for spraying primer on oak though, I recommend BIN shellac primer instead of oil. Thanks for the great directions. I recommend either a 210, or a 208 tip. The Capspray series is the closest you'll come to a turbine-powered paint brush. The paint finish alone is durable when prepped correctly. Thanks. Designed to spray and back roll in one motion with only one person doing the work of two employees.... Up to four times faster than standard rolling Wearing a respirator is a must when working with oil primer. ** Also, do you have any tips on using Sherwin Williams Pro Industrial waterbased alkyd urethane?? Since writing the article, I switched and it works better for me. (I’m hoping it’s at least good, because it was a pretty penny!). Do you know if Zinsser B-I-N Interior Multi-purpose Shellac Primer is compatible with the BM Advance? Matt G. (author) from United States on September 08, 2018: The process for prepping and painting laminate cabinet boxes is similar to oak cabinets, except no grain filler is needed. The paint should have time to cure before top coating. Matt G. (author) from United States on March 03, 2018: BIN is a shellac based primer. One coat of oil primer on cabinets is usually adequate, but two coats is even better. As for cleaning up tools with shellac, use ammonia, and then denatured alcohol if need be, NEVER use "Acetone Nail Polish Remover", ha. The EZ Reel virtually eliminates hose hassles and increases your production. Extreme Bond Primer is a good product, but not for priming stained, unpainted wood cabinets. I'm glad you found it helpful. Does this work? Oil primer dries slow and wreaks all day. Good read, thx. If possible, apply primer outdoors. Question: I know you prefer BIN but we're rolling so we're using cover stain. Cold air slows the dry time. This could be the reason. Regarding the Aqua Coat - the only place I had any crackling was in the crevices between the inset and the panel. Filling the grain still allows some of the natural texture of the wood to show through the paint, but the deep cracks are no longer visible. 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